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Archive for June, 2008
New India category
Saturday, June 21st, 2008So is GFM moving to India?
Saturday, June 21st, 2008I intended to get a post up shortly after the India trip to try and summarize our findings and what we’re currently thinking about the prospect of beginning work there. I don’t suppose this still counts as shortly after…
As Rob Thiessen said after the trip, we met with 19 different church planters, including several Indian nationals as well as foreigners from 5 other countries. They represented 9 different ministries and organizations. Each one had a unique perspective, and we returned with a far greater understanding of factors involved in making disciples in India and with new insights to help us in our work in other parts of the world as well.
The short answer is yes, we are feeling like GFM is supposed to begin a long-term work in India. The ultimate reason is the overwhelming spiritual and physical need there. It is true that much good gospel work is being done in India, but the job of making disciples of all nations (ethnic groups) in India is far, far from done. Statistically, I think it has to be considered the most unreached country on earth. One Indian national church planter told us that, despite the headway being made in certain parts of India, population growth is outpacing the growth of new believers. In other words, in strictly numeric terms, the Church is losing ground in India. Many of the church planters we met with are very skeptical of the accuracy of large numbers being published of how many new churches are being planted in India. By this we were saddened. At the same time, though, we were greatly encouraged by some of the excellent disciple-making work we saw being done. This gave us an exciting vision of the possibility of helping people in India respond to God in a way fitting to their culture.
Where we would work is a very complicated question, and one that could probably not be answered until someone were to spend an extended period of time exploring different places. The thing that makes India very complicated is that its people groups are all mixed together, at least in the big cities. In Mexico, the ethnic groups are much more distinctly separated geographically. Besides that, India’s thousands of language groups are further broken down by castes, some of which refuse to interact with each other. Part way into the trip we started feeling like we might need to forget about focusing on specific groups at all and instead just settle down in a city and start making reproducing disciples. By the end of the trip, I think we were somewhere in the middle. We should probably find a city or town where not too much work is being done, then seek out a specific needy group in that place on which to focus.
What would be the church planting team’s platform, or occupation, is an even more complicated question. Here are a few intriguing possibilities for a team of Westerners:
- Start a travel agency that shows tourist groups around, then make disciples of the Indians with whom you share your life.
- Teach North American English to some of the many Indians going to the United States or Canada to work.
- Teach Spanish. India is developing good trade relations with Mexico, and many Indians also go to Spain to work.
- Start a consulting business to help Westerners coming to India learn language and acculturate.
- Be a full-time student in a university.
- Be a businessperson and reach out to upper class and upper caste Indians – an extremely unreached segment of the society.
Who will be on a GFM team moving to India has yet to be determined. When they will go is also a question mark and depends on a number of things, such as how soon we get a team into Thailand, how soon we have a trained team willing to go to India, and whether we have a sufficient labor force to continue the work in Mexico.
The trip was sobering. We have been hearing reports of huge church planting movements taking place in India with thousands of churches being planted and tens of thousands of people coming to the Lord. This may be true, but we saw more than enough to convince us that we can’t waltz in there expecting things to be exploding in a few years. The stories we heard sounded much more like what I’m used to hearing from the Muslim world. Church planters work for 10 or 15 years in order to raise up just a few disciples and maybe a small fellowship or two. Work in India is not for those wanting cheap, quick rewards.
But we feel that God wants us to send a team to begin working there. We have been captured by the Revelation 7:9,10 vision of seeing all nations worship the Lamb, and we cannot overlook millions in India entering eternity without ever having heard the name of Jesus.
This story to be continued…
About the president’s visit
Thursday, June 5th, 2008The president of Mexico, Felipe Calderón, did indeed visit our little market town on Tuesday, as well as at least a couple of other towns and villages in our area. The site of his speech was actually not much more than a half mile from our house, so our whole neighborhood was crawling with security and overrun by the 10,000+ people who attended the speech.
One of several newspaper articles on the visit is here.
I attended the speech, along with four other GFM guys. It took us quite a while to get a hold of tickets (they were free, but everyone had to have one), but one of the guys finally found a man selling snowcones who had extra tickets. We got pretty close to the front and had a great view of the speech. Below are a few photos I took. They didn’t turn out great because they were just on my camera phone, but here they are anyway:
Hundreds of people lined up, waiting to get into the speech

One of five helicopters arriving carrying the president and a number of other government officials and security personnel

A large crowd and plenty of members of the media listen to the speeches

On the left is the governor of our state, and on the right is President Calderón

President Calderón at the podium speaking. Seated behind him are his wife, the governor of the state and the governor’s wife, and the president of our town, among others.

The crowd pouring out of the tent where the speech took place

What I liked about the event
- It was the first time since 17 years ago that a president of Mexico has visited our town, and I think it was an encouragement to the indigenous people, who often feel like the government doesn’t care about them (though I would argue that this perception is not necessarily based in reality).
- Calderón talked about all kinds of support, programs, and funding the federal government is giving our region, which is one of the poorer areas in Mexico. More importantly, though, he spoke out against the government corruption that has caused so many state and federal funds sent to the region over the years to disappear. In the first year and a half of his presidency, Calderón has taken a stand against government corruption, which has gained him plenty of enemies. Please pray for him and his efforts to combat corruption. Proverbs indicates that the entire country suffers when governors are corrupt.
- Mexico has a long history of problems in its government, but I have been encouraged the past year and a half by what I’ve seen in President Calderón, the governor of our state, and the new president of our town. It was neat to see all three of them on the same platform, committing themselves to working for the improvement of our region. Concerning our town president, he came into office in January, and it is very evident (unlike with many past town presidents) that he is working hard to make improvements. These past few months are the first time in my four years in Mexico that I’ve ever heard anyone speak well about those in government. When Calderón and the governor come this week and talk about the tens of millions of new pesos they’re putting into highway expansion and improvement, new hospitals, reforestation, and a number of other projects, I am much more inclined to believe them than I might have been in the past. Since January, we already see these things being done.
- I really like our new local president. One of the things I appreciate about him is his heart for the single women of Tlaxiaco, struggling to support families without the help of a husband. Both in his campaign platform and the two times I have heard him speak, he has had plenty to say about helping single women, which seems to me like one of the region’s greatest needs.
Thinking about India and Mexico
Tuesday, June 3rd, 2008So obviously, I haven’t posted much lately. One day maybe I’ll be a professional blogger who posts every day, but it doesn’t look like that day will be getting here any time this summer. Between traveling back to the U.S. from India, spending two more weeks visiting in Colorado and Texas, driving a few thousand more miles, and then hitting the ground running here in Mexico in preparation for the arrival of summer interns, blogging time has been scarce! I do want to continue blogging as much as possible, in order to help people plug in better with what is going on with Global Frontier Missions, as well as to allow us all (me the post author and you the comment authors) to share with one another what God is teaching us.
I had a couple more posts I had wanted to get up about the India trip, so let me do that. Waiting so long to finish talking about the trip may not meet blogging best practices, but hey, who ever said I’d meet all of those, right?
I mentioned in an early post during the India trip that I was surprised at how similar India and Mexico are. I want to share a bit about the similarities I saw, as well as some differences. Here goes:
Ways India and Mexico are similar
- Religiously, I found the dominant beliefs of Hinduism to be very similar to the dominant beliefs of southern Mexico, believe it or not. The belief system of the majority of Hindus has an animistic flavor to it. People honor (though they don’t necessarily obey) all sorts of different gods in order to invoke the gods’ favor and avoid their wrath. Southern Mexico is very similar in the way that people depend on the Catholic saints and virgins, while not necessarily sensing a strong need to obey God. As we walked into shops and rode in taxis in India and saw all the altars to the gods and images of them hung everywhere, it was uncanny how similar it was to Mexico, where people have altars to and images of the saints. The Hindu temples with their various idols felt, in many respects, similar to the Catholic cathedrals of southern Mexico.
- India and Mexico are both what we call hot climate cultures. People in hot climate cultures value relationships over tasks and often do not stick to a rigid schedule. Other similarities between the two cultures (in contrast to North America) are the greater respect given to elders and those in positions of leadership, the greater sense of community and lesser individualism, and the indirect and non-confrontational manner of communication.
- Both Mexicans and Indians are very hospitable. When staying in the home of an Indian family, we cheerfully pleased our hosts by digging into the continued servings of food offered at each meal.
- In India, as in Mexico, I was often stopped on the streets by friendly strangers who speak some English and wanted to know about me and talk about the United States.
- Many Indians migrate to North America to find work, as do many Mexicans. It was quite common to talk to people in India who had family members who were living or had lived in the U.S. or Canada.
- A staple food in India is chapati, which is a round flatbread usually made of wheat. That, combined with frequent servings of rice and beans felt a lot like reaching for a tortilla and digging into a meal in Mexico.
Indians look like Mexicans! We saw a number of people in India who could have been right off the streets of our Mexican town or who even had a striking resemblance to particular friends of ours in Mexico.
Ways India and Mexico are different
- Despite the presence of hundreds of distinct ethnic groups in Mexico, Mexico’s culture is still much more homogenous than India’s. India is extremely fragmented with thousands of languages, numerous castes, several major cultures/religious systems (Hinduism, Islam, Sikhism, Jainism, Buddhism, Christianity), etc. All these mean that India is divided into literally thousands of different groups of people who are willing to have only limited interaction with one another.
- Some of the outward cultural norms of India were quite different. For example, in Mexico we greet everyone, usually with a handshake. In India, strangers don’t greet one another, and even men and women who know each other will rarely shake hands.
- The strong sense of honor and shame in India, and what it means to preserve an individual’s/family’s/village’s honor is something I have not really seen in Mexico or elsewhere in North America. I might have shared this already, I can’t remember, but I read a story in the newspaper in India where a young woman who was raped begged the court to make the man who violated her marry her, in order to restore her honor.
- Though I would say that Mexicans have greater respect for family than, say, North Americans, I felt like Indians honor and care for family members and family structures far more than the people of Mexico do.
Get equipped to plant churches on your college campus
Monday, June 2nd, 2008This is for the kind of college students we often see in Mexico for summer internships–the kind who deeply desire to be used for the kingdom of God. If that’s you, I encourage you to check out the following opportunity. It has nothing to do with GFM, but getting intense training in campus church planting looks like a great way to spend a couple of weeks of your summer!
A visit from the president of Mexico
Monday, June 2nd, 2008Word on the street in our town is that we’re expecting a visit from the president of Mexico, Felipe Calderón, as well as from the governor of the state tomorrow. This is significant, because ours is a market town of only about 20,000. It sounds like he’s planning on visiting maybe a few other towns and villages in the area, as well. We had a visit from the governor back in March, and that was a big deal.
I don’t know if I’ll be able to go to any of the festivities or what, but I’ll get a few photos if I’m able to.
I haven’t been able to find a lot of info on the web, but below are links to a couple of stories. As often seems to be the case, the biggest news is the boycots, protests, and road blockings being planned by people who want to get some issue onto the president’s radar. That’s pretty standard politics around here. Here are the links, in case you’re interested:
